kawaiihoto ([info]kawaiihoto) wrote in [info]hetalia,
2008-11-09 22:02:00
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Hetalia: Nationalistic pride?

Ever since I've started reading Hetalia I have been generating opinions about countries in general [like Russia's scariness!]; I myself am chilean, therefore my country is not portrayed in hetalia.

I was wondering how those people who have their countries personified into characters feel. Do they feel stereotyped? Identified? Proud?

I don't know if this counts as spam, since this is neither fanart or a fanfic; just a discussion thread pursuing to know what nationalistic feelings Hetalia generates, specially since this community is composed of international members.

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[info]ex_uniform983

November 10 2008, 01:13:09 UTC 3 years ago

PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN BB.

[info]zhiefty

November 10 2008, 01:59:56 UTC 3 years ago

totally seconded~~~ >;)

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[info]pana

November 10 2008, 01:15:55 UTC 3 years ago

I love Greece, absolutely love him. I'm not the kind of person who gets easily offended though. Even growing up with a lot of anti-Turkish propaganda, I ship Turkey/Greece like crazy. So.

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:40:27 UTC 3 years ago

I have to agree with you: Greece-tan is absolutely awsome :P

[info]pana

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[info]keikain

November 10 2008, 01:17:02 UTC 3 years ago

I, personally, couldn't be happier with America? He's adorable and I really couldn't think of any way he could be represent our country better.

[info]scuttling

November 10 2008, 19:14:37 UTC 3 years ago

O HAY.

also agreed

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[info]aerlyn

November 10 2008, 01:18:38 UTC 3 years ago

I'm Canadian, and I don't like how Canada tends to look so..."uke", especially in fanart. But, you know, I can't really argue with it, and I adore the character anyway! XD

[info]krissified

November 11 2008, 00:30:50 UTC 3 years ago

It's actually kind of because how no one actually notices Canada for their achievements and such, that's why his character in Hetalia looks so uke. XD
But still, Canada is adorable. ♥

[info]song_of_truth

November 10 2008, 01:19:34 UTC 3 years ago

America never fails to give me a case of the giggles, or at least a goofy grin. So I vote that as GLEEFUL PRIDE?

[info]sei_kou_ki

November 10 2008, 01:20:31 UTC 3 years ago

FUCK YEAH, SHINING SEAS AND FREAKIN MAJESTIC PURPLE MOUNTAINS AND LOUD DUDES WITH GLASSES

[info]confictionery

November 10 2008, 01:41:33 UTC 3 years ago

THIS. I AGREE WITH THIS.

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[info]dropsofgleam

November 10 2008, 01:21:40 UTC 3 years ago

Heee, hello fellow Chilean! =D Too bad out little sock-shaped country isn't featured... still. =)

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:29:07 UTC 3 years ago

Yes T_T I love our sock country :X

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[info]hoozilla

November 10 2008, 01:24:21 UTC 3 years ago

Oh, yes. America has definitely improved my opinion of my own country XDDD

[info]gem_gamgee

November 10 2008, 02:05:07 UTC 3 years ago

Exactly. XDD

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[info]bolshevists

November 10 2008, 01:24:59 UTC 3 years ago

I remember one thing my Asian Philosophy professor said that just stood out to me: "Compared to others, we as Americans are hopelessly optimistic." It wasn't until she said that that I actually realized the truth behind that. Our government does tend to work on the notion that things are only going to get better, and although they're bad now, their roots are strong (a recent example of American optimism: McCain saying how he believes that the economy is "fundamentally good"). Other nations, like China (as seen by the fundamental beliefs of Confucianism and such), have this desire to get back to the way things were in the past. Instead of time taking a positive slope, time takes a negative slope.

So I think America's optimism and enthusiasm is pretty accurate. And how he can be seen as a bit...ridiculous sometimes. I mean, here it's almost considered unpatriotic to say "Yeah, things are bad, and they're not getting better" instead of "Our foundations are strong, we'll be okay!" It does seem a bit ridiculous, to an outsider. And how we make such a huge deal about stuff. I think Americans as a whole are pretty optimistic and enthusiastic, so I like how America's character reflects that.

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:38:53 UTC 3 years ago

Well, Americans somehow always manage to pull off something to fix everything :P

Here if we're screwed, well, we stayed screwed or gets colonized [or become a common wealth :P] of a bigger nation. That's probrably why we revolt all the time for silly things XD

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[info]azure_complex

November 10 2008, 01:25:20 UTC 3 years ago

Yo tambien soy chilena xD (aunk naci en Brasil y ahora mismo vivo en Republica Dominicana xD)
con una amiga hisimos sketchs de como seria ''Chile kun'' a lo hetalia xD

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:30:13 UTC 3 years ago

Ya! Que entretenido! Tienes que darme el link ^^

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[info]dyxlisa

November 10 2008, 01:25:37 UTC 3 years ago

Though I'm American, I'm mixed (Chinese and Finnish mostly) and I definitely find Hetalia inspires a lot of pride in me for my countries, and have actually learned a lot about Finnish history thanks to Hetalia which is awesome \o/ My grandmother is the one from Finland and I don't get the chance to talk with her very often. I also find myself laughing sort of self-derisively at the stereotypes since a lot of them ring true, especially when it comes to America lol

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:36:44 UTC 3 years ago

Yes, I hate to admit that I didn't know much about some of the countries portrayed in hetalia [like Lithuana] and I now love them and visit wikipedia more often :P

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[info]farelle

November 10 2008, 01:25:39 UTC 3 years ago

I like the character for Sweden, aum.. he reminds me of those silent kinda stoic anime characters that I end up linking sometimes. (Like Sakaki from Azumanga Daioh for example.)
I guess I maybe can identify myself in some ways with him, but bah, I dunno.
I'm VERY happy they did not make the character for Sweden a girl, with a big rack and all that, Berwald is like the male version of that but much, much better. :'D
As for the proudness...I'm a very humble person so I wont say that I'm very patriotic... except if my country manages to accomplish something good, but mostly I disslike a lot of other Swedes who live here because I find them to be too prude and what not. But that's just me. And I'm a kinda special case. X'''D
Maybe it's just me who aren't a very people friendly person.. ^^;

[info]the_404_error

November 10 2008, 01:26:02 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  November 10 2008, 01:27:58 UTC

I'd say America's personality is almost perfect in relation to our general mindset.

He amuses me, but admittedly also embarrasses me at times. Such as his map predicament, but since I've also known people who've placed Mexico where Texas is and put Siberia in Australia on geography tests... I can't really argue the accuracy there and always end up laughing at my own country if anything.

[info]megglez13

November 10 2008, 01:28:22 UTC 3 years ago

It's sad but it's so true. I had a friend who, in 9th or 10th grade didn't know that the UK was an island.

Putting Siberia in Australia is pretty awful, though. XD

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[info]megglez13

November 10 2008, 01:26:18 UTC 3 years ago

I absolutely adore America. Which is funny, because up until last Tuesday, I've never really been patriotic. Like at all. I used to joke about how ironic it was that it took a JAPANESE webcomic to make me love my country. XD

[info]cherryfruit

November 10 2008, 14:42:38 UTC 3 years ago

I feel the exact same way. US-kun makes it easier to look at your country's faults as just cute personality quirks, haha.

[info]callalady

November 10 2008, 01:27:39 UTC 3 years ago

I would definitely say PROUD! In capitals. But seriously, we all know it's just a comic.

[info]meltedpeep

November 10 2008, 01:27:52 UTC 3 years ago

When I first heard about Hetalia I sort of cringed at the thought of what America must look like in a setup like this, but after reading the scanlations and seeing how much ribbing everybody gets, I can actually feel kind of proud of my bossy overachieving optimist of a country. In real life, I'm very uncomfortable with most of the attention we tend to get overseas, but looking at everything in the historical context where other countries had the spotlight and were just as ridiculous is...oddly reassuring.

SEE, GUYS, ONE DAY WE'LL ALL LOOK BACK ON THIS AND LAUGH. Har har.

[info]out_of___tune

November 10 2008, 01:28:17 UTC 3 years ago

I don't really have a problem with how Canada is portrayed. No one really cares about us anyways D8. Although he's a bit of a wimp from what I heard.


...I just don't get his uniform. What is that? I thought that everyone thought of us as lumberjacks and mountees who live in igloos.

[info]megglez13

November 10 2008, 01:31:29 UTC 3 years ago

No one really cares about us anyways D8.
THIS IS A LIE. I'm from the US, and I LOVE Canada. If Obama had lost the election, I was totally going to move up there with you guys and your universal healthcare.

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[info]gomimushi

November 10 2008, 01:29:20 UTC 3 years ago

My home country (Singapore) isn't featured either (as far as i know?) but I've lived most of my life in the UK, and I love everything about him. :'D The Tea-drinking tsundere for america ♥ ~

Right up to those amazing eyebrows ♥.....

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:34:53 UTC 3 years ago

Yes, UK's eyebrows sure are amazing :O!

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[info]gaviotas

November 10 2008, 01:35:21 UTC 3 years ago

Puerto Rico~

I'm not surprised that Cuba gets a mention and we don't.

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[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 02:26:50 UTC 3 years ago

Re: Puerto Rico~

Maybe if there is a chapter about the cuban misile crisis during the cold war cuba can be friends with russia and PR with the US, since PR was used as an estrategic point [vieques?] to watch over cuba.

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[info]viva_la_yaoi

November 10 2008, 01:36:38 UTC 3 years ago

Hm, well, I personally love how America is portrayed and don't feel offended at all. I'm rather proud to have someone as cute, optimistic, and oblivious as Alfred be America.

And maybe it's just be being American, but if I lived in any of the other countries portayed in Hetalia, then I'd still be just as proud and honored as I am now (as I love all of the characters).

[info]sasorion

November 10 2008, 01:37:01 UTC 3 years ago

Some of the country manifestations I don't agree with totally (Italy? Really?), but hey, who takes Hetalia seriously anyways?

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:48:02 UTC 3 years ago

Well, the representations in Hetalia are based on stereotypes that exist internationally about each country and the author picked some of them out [I mean, some italians don't even like pasta and they are still italian].

The stereotypes the author picked out do not only come from himself, they ARE out there and some people actually take them seriouly and judge a country based on these types of prejudice.

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[info]insomniel

November 10 2008, 01:37:59 UTC 3 years ago

I can't imagine a better America, honestly. He is scarily accurate, both the good and bad parts. I'm not even that patriotic, but I can't help myself!

I'd also like to see how Vietnam turns out, but I'll probably like her anyways. Stereotyping doesn't really bother me as long as it's funny and educational and not... you know, mean.

[info]kawaiihoto

November 10 2008, 01:49:34 UTC 3 years ago

I totaly agree with you ^^

And yes, Vietnam-tan would be interesting to see :D

[info]xhiro_xhiro

November 10 2008, 01:42:57 UTC 3 years ago

I think Canada's perfectly fine and pretty accurate in some ways. ALWAYS GETTING MISTAKEN FOR US. *SNIFF* I also adore his ukeness though the teddy-carrying confuses me. His meek personality is accurate too haha.

The thing I like about Hetalia is that even though it stereotypes many countries, it doesn't necessarily portray any one as bad. It also makes me bother to learn about other countries that I might not have even known existed before 8D;

[info]summer_queen

November 10 2008, 01:43:02 UTC 3 years ago

I absolutely adore Hetalia's America. He's such a lovable dork!

[info]pseudo_tsuga

November 10 2008, 01:43:28 UTC 3 years ago

Overall, I like it, but I do wish it could somehow be shown that America isn't this monolith: we have a lot of diversity too!
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